https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/9kv9qd/the-joe-rogan-experience-is-a-safe-space-to-launder-bad-ideas

Elon Musk, the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX, went on Joe Rogan's podcast Thursday night, and if you know anything about these people, the end product is pretty much exactly what you'd expect.

Rogan and Musk spend a little more than two and a half hours shooting the shit about Musk's projects, drinking whiskey, smoking weed, and at one point admiring Rogan's samurai sword, which he claims is the real deal from the 1500s. They talked about AI in the way two stoned and genuinely curious people speculate about future technologies (will AI exterminate humanity? Will we be able to control it? Will we merge with AI with the help of Musk's Neuralink company?), but not in the way any of the actual AI researchers Motherboard has talked to on a regular basis for years talk about it—they're not worried about Terminator robots rising against humanity, but about "deepfakes" and the bias of the mostly white people who make algorithms at tech companies.